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    Post by Geezer on Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:12 am

    Headsup, crossbow makers.  I just discovered this site from Spain.  It's a catalog for an exhibit of artifacts from the last Moorish stronghold... the Alhambra in Granada.  Take a look, there's a really interesting and different Arab crossbow, plus illustrations of more european style crossbows being used by moors-arabs-whatever one calls muslim Spaniards of the 15th century.  It's pretty cool anyhow.  Geezer http://www.alhambra-patronato.es/fileadmin/pdf/CATALOGO_Armas_y_enseres_de_la_defensa_nazar__.pdf
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    Post by jds6 on Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:40 pm

    Very interesting, the crossbow looks very thin to say the least. Thanks Greezer for the heads up. Just wish I could get it to translate into Texan!!!

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    Post by Geezer on Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:26 pm

    For what it's worth, I've got some dimensions at least.  The stock length is 79 centimeters... call it 30 inches.  Prod length is 1.3 meters... pretty darned big... it looks like wood backed with a substantial bit of sinew.  The roller-nuts listed on another page all come out to 25-27 mm wide and @ 30 mm in diameter.  Given a nut of @ 25 mm (1 inch) wide, that makes this stick about 1.5 inches... say 37 mm wide at the lock.  Note that the stock suddenly narrows to a more or less cylindrical handle a few inches behind the lock.  I suspect that's the hold-point for the back hand, so some sort of tickler trigger (consistent with the bone nuts) should terminate about there.  Presumably fore-hand holds beneath lock, or more likely some distance ahead of that. 
    Note also that there's no real groove atop the stock, just lots of fancy carving that presumably would wear against the string.  I suppose the dark, bent-down section above the prod has some sort of bolt-groove, otherwise the bow's not actually shootable.  The text says markings on the stock suggest the bow either belonged to the Sultan's family or one of his retainers.   I hope that helps a bit.  Geezer
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    Post by kenh on Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:03 am

    Great find, Geezer.  With any luck I'll be able to visit the exhibit.  My Lady Sally and I are going to Spain in October to settle some things with her father's estate (he passed away about a month ago). Probably no archery related souvenirs from his estate, but I will be bring back a WWII regimental Kukri (he served with the Ghurkas in Bruma) and perhaps an 18th century flinchlock pistol that he collected at some point.  However there is a rumor that he at some point had a crossbow (call it 50 years ago) in England.  Who knows what treasures we'll unearth.
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    Post by Geezer on Thu Aug 08, 2013 8:51 am

    Great idea, Kenh.  Be sure and take pictures of the Arab bow, if they're allowed.  Views from the lock back might be helpful in replication... see if there's any sort of trigger left.
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    Post by mac on Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:02 am

    There's a good pic of this bow in Harmuth's book.  I will try to post it later, if I can figure out what the problem is with my camera.

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    Post by mac on Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:33 am

    Here we go.  My battery was just low.

    This is from Egon Harmuth's "Die Armbrust", 1986.

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