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    Post by Jack Pine on Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:24 am

    Howdy, I'm Jack Pine, a redneck from the forest area of northern Michigan. Have carried on a lifelong love affair with the crossbow. Tried to make one in high school metal shop [before they started having panic attacks over such things] but did not finish because of lack of time and materials. I didn't buy, shoot, or hunt with one until 1968, when I bought my first Wham-O Powermaster [still have one]. I have several guns I used to love, but now I hunt exclusively with my Middleton or Man Kung crossbows, even during gun season. I have had many crossbows in recent years, and I love to do performance-enhancing mods. I still have some super designs for unconventional crossbows in my head, and if I ever get my hands on a mill/drill/lathe machine, I will eventually make what's in my head come to reality. Great forum, some really interesting people and designs here!

    Jack ><>


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    Post by Gnome on Sat Mar 01, 2014 5:46 am

    Welcome, Jack! Sounds like you have a healthy heap of practical experience, I'll be interested to hear your ideas and opinions.
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    Post by kenh on Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:07 am

    Welcome, Jack.  There's a wealth of info here to help make your dream crossbow become reality.  Looking forward to seeing what you get up to!

    What part of "upper" Michigan?  My Dad was born & raised in Charlevoix and I spend many summers up in that area.  Or are you a Yooper?

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    Post by Jack Pine on Sat Mar 01, 2014 8:06 am

    kenh wrote:Welcome, Jack.  There's a wealth of info here to help make your dream crossbow become reality.  Looking forward to seeing what you get up to!

    What part of "upper" Michigan?  My Dad was born & raised in Charlevoix and I spend many summers up in that area.  Or are you a Yooper?

    @Gnome: thank you, this summer between working our hobby farm and orchard and all the other stuff Mrs Pine can dream up for me, I hope to build and post a redneck survival crossbow, made from basic junk lying around.

    @Kenh, I was a yooper for a time, living outside a small village named Republic [SE of Ishpeming and Negaunee], on the Michigamme River.
    Now I'm a troll [living below the bridge], living in the boons outside a little village named Fife Lake, about 25 miles SE of Traverse City, on a deadend corner of a dirt road and 2 track.

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    Post by Todd the archer on Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:40 am

    Welcome Jack, glad to see you here. Like the stuff you have been doing with the Man Kung crossbows.

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    Post by Jack Pine on Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:16 pm

    Hi and thank you Todd, that's a dandy buck you've got hanging there!  What crossbow is that you're posing with?

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    Post by Todd the archer on Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:26 pm

    Thanks, that's my old Excalibur Exomag I used to have.

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    Post by Jack Pine on Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:36 pm

    Ah, I thought so; you say you used to have it, did you replace it with one of the short-limbed Excals?

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    Post by Todd the archer on Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:24 pm

    No I replaced it with a Middleton 315 (long limb version) which I later sold. For now using my homebuilt stuff.

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    Post by Jack Pine on Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:52 pm

    That is too cool! I wait for the day when I kill a deer with a crossbow I made myself.
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    Post by Jack Pine on Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:54 pm

    Got any pix of some of your own weapons, or a link to something you posted already?
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    Post by Todd the archer on Sat Mar 01, 2014 11:38 pm

    Here are some of my builds:

    http://thearbalistguild.forumotion.com/t422-starting-a-new-project

    http://thearbalistguild.forumotion.com/t1057-contemporary-crossbow-build

    Have not a chance to take game with them yet but hope to next season.

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    Post by Jack Pine on Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:44 am

    Todd!!!
    GREAT work, thank you so much for showing me, but now I have bad case of crossbow envy! What a rush that will be when you make a kill with your own weapon.  Dang, excuse me while I mop up the drool from the keyboard.
    I have seen some great work on this site; I love it.
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    Post by Hotspur on Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:12 pm

    Welcome Jack,

    Its great to have another fellow hunter on the boards here.  I too am interested in crossbow hunting and took my home-built out last season.   No big x-bow bucks to pose with like Todd yet but there is NEXT SEASON!

    I'm looking forward to your builds and sharing ideas.

    Here's to venison in the freezer in 2014!

    All the best from western Canada

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    Post by Jack Pine on Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:56 am

    Thank you for the warm welcome, Ernest. No venison but did you get a moose? As much as I love my venison, I actually like moose the best of any game meat I ever ate. Never killed one personally, but my Dad did. Indescribably good! Is that shooter in your avatar one of your builds?
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    Post by Hotspur on Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:47 am

    [size=13.333333015441895]Hi Jack[/size]


    [size=13.333333015441895]The avatar is my one and only x-bow.  There is a second one in the works based on more modern design that will also be for hunting.[/size]

    Moose are a good way to fill the freeze with one shot.  I live on Vancouver Island (big chunk of land off West coast) No moose here, but I did hunt moose on the mainland last year (rifle).  My tag was restricted to spike-fork bulls - no luck.  Saw a few cow moose and one killed by wolves (not much left!) but that was it.

    We have an early archery season that starts in late August. I will get the second bow ready for that.  The avatar bow was a great learning exercise.  It is basically medieval with a roller nut and short power stroke steel prod.  I want more speed with the second build and have decided on a fibreglass prod and a modern trigger.  I got a chunk of purpose made glass billet from Gordon Composites that I will tiller into some kind of prod.

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    Long range target crossbow

    Post by Hermit on Wed Mar 05, 2014 9:43 am

    Hijack.........lol,forgot the space.........Moose is good,in fact I'm having Moose stew tonight.Have you tried Elk?many here say it's the best,but I must admit I prefer Moose.Got a good Moose stew recipe if Mrs. Pine is interested,probably work for venison as well,using common ingredients,nothing exotic.One thing I'm curious about,If you're going to use your crossbow for hunting,why make a target crossbow?,none of the serious hunters on here do.Trudging around in the bush,and the sometimes rapid shots you have to take is a much different affair to target shooting.Whatever crossbow you make,good to see you on here tho',lots of 'been there,done that' people on here to help,and if you have an idea and share it,good for us all!.Been a savage winter up here,staying warm and clearing snow has been the focus,but it's nearly over,and the sap,and interest in crossbow building is rising..........good luck with your build.
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    Post by Jack Pine on Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:28 am

    Hotspur wrote:Welcome Jack,

    Its great to have another fellow hunter on the boards here.  I too am interested in crossbow hunting and took my home-built out last season.   No big x-bow bucks to pose with like Todd yet but there is NEXT SEASON!

    I'm looking forward to your builds and sharing ideas.

    Here's to venison in the freezer in 2014!

    All the best from western Canada

    Ernest (aka Hotspur)


    707!! Ernest, being a Detroit Lions fan, I understand "next season" all too well!!

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    Post by Jack Pine on Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:36 am

    Hotspur wrote:[size=13.33]Hi Jack[/size]


    [size=13.33]The avatar is my one and only x-bow.  There is a second one in the works based on more modern design that will also be for hunting.[/size]

    Moose are a good way to fill the freeze with one shot.  I live on Vancouver Island (big chunk of land off West coast) No moose here, but I did hunt moose on the mainland last year (rifle).  My tag was restricted to spike-fork bulls - no luck.  Saw a few cow moose and one killed by wolves (not much left!) but that was it.

    We have an early archery season that starts in late August. I will get the second bow ready for that.  The avatar bow was a great learning exercise.  It is basically medieval with a roller nut and short power stroke steel prod.  I want more speed with the second build and have decided on a fibreglass prod and a modern trigger.  I got a chunk of purpose made glass billet from Gordon Composites that I will tiller into some kind of prod.


    I really admire the skill and dedication you guys on this forum have. I belong to some other forums, but most of those guys would be afraid to do what some of you guys do.
    That's a great-looking flinger you have there in your avatar.


    I started fooling around with a home build yesterday but had an unexpected setback.  Sometimes what's in your head looks great on paper, but just doesn't work out.  Mrs Pine is home today, so I probably won't get another run at it until tomorrow.

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    Post by Jack Pine on Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:47 am

    Hermit wrote:Hijack.........lol,forgot the space.........Moose is good,in fact I'm having Moose stew tonight.Have you tried Elk?many here say it's the best,but I must admit I prefer Moose.Got a good Moose stew recipe if Mrs. Pine is interested,probably work for venison as well,using common ingredients,nothing exotic.One thing I'm curious about,If you're going to use your crossbow for hunting,why make a target crossbow?,none of the serious hunters on here do.Trudging around in the bush,and the sometimes rapid shots you have to take is a much different affair to target shooting.Whatever crossbow you make,good to see you on here tho',lots of 'been there,done that' people on here to help,and if you have an idea and share it,good for us all!.Been a savage winter up here,staying warm and clearing snow has been the focus,but it's nearly over,and the sap,and interest in crossbow building is rising..........good luck with your build.
                                               Hermit.
    Herm, I never met a crossbow I didn't like. I don't plan at this time to make a target crossbow, just admired the that builder's workmanship.
    Starting to work on something now, but don't want to reveal any details so I won't look quite as stupid if it doesn't work out!!!
    Yah, I would love that recipe, Mrs Pine is still working full time for a little over a year yet, so I do most of the cooking. The bad thing is, when I butcher my deer, I usually cut steaks and grind the rest, so I don't have stew meat now unless I cut up some steak; I love my steak so I'm not sure I could do that, but as Hotspur already pointed out; there's always next year and I would like the recipe.
    Thank you,
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    Moose/Deer stew recipe

    Post by Hermit on Wed Mar 05, 2014 10:16 pm

    1lb Moose or Deer,cubed
    3 tbs oil.
    1 medium onion(rough chopped}
    2 good sized carrots
    1 stick celery
    4 medium potatoes
    1 cup frozen peas(or mixed peas and green beans}
    1 clove of garlic(crushed)
    1 can tomato soup
    1 1/2 cans water
    2tsp. worcester sauce
    1 tsp basil
    1 tsp salt and pepper
    Method: brown meat in the oil(approx 10 mins)put into crockpot along with veggies.In a bowl mix together tomato soup,water,basil,salt and pepper,and worcester sauce,pour over meat and veggies in crockpot.set crockpot to low,and cook for approx. 8 hours,stirring occasionally.Makes 3-4 servings(depending on appetite.
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    Post by Jack Pine on Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:59 am

    Hermit wrote:1lb Moose or Deer,cubed
    3 tbs oil.
    1 medium onion(rough chopped}
    2 good sized carrots
    1 stick celery
    4 medium potatoes
    1 cup frozen peas(or mixed peas and green beans}
    1 clove of garlic(crushed)
    1 can tomato soup
    1 1/2 cans water
    2tsp. worcester sauce
    1 tsp basil
    1 tsp salt and pepper
    Method: brown meat in the oil(approx 10 mins)put into crockpot along with veggies.In a bowl mix together tomato soup,water,basil,salt and pepper,and worcester sauce,pour over meat and veggies in crockpot.set crockpot to low,and cook for approx. 8 hours,stirring occasionally.Makes 3-4 servings(depending on appetite.
                    Hermit.
    Thank you, that sounds great, I'm sure others on here will enjoy that as well!

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    Post by Hermit on Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:23 am

    You're welcome Jack.I like this recipe because it's quick(Prep. time less than half hour)very tasty,and after working all day,I often don't feel like cooking.Like all stews,and most soups,it's at it's best the second day.Along with secret ingredient biscuits,you have a healthy,tasty cold winter meal.
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    Post by Jack Pine on Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:48 am

    Hermit wrote:You're welcome Jack.I like this recipe because it's quick(Prep. time less than half hour)very tasty,and after working all day,I often don't feel like cooking.Like all stews,and most soups,it's at it's best the second day.Along with secret ingredient biscuits,you have a healthy,tasty cold winter meal.
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    Herm, I cook a lot of stuff in the crockpot; I don't understand why more people don't. The only negative is, I always make a pot full, I can never make a half pot; I don't know why. Had to buy a small crockpot for just me and Mrs Pine, but I even fill that little thing.

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    Post by Hermit on Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:35 pm

    does'nt much matter if you make stuff that freezes well Jack,that's what I do.............Hermit.

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