Return to early crossbow around XIV th,on Mac's trail. I love the design and the efficiency of those military crossbow they where light, powerful, rough , but very elegant and made to serve a soldier in harsh condition. Tiller:cherry wood prod:yew,nut and decoration:delrin, metal parts forged (Sure Mac is a lot better for this)
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Return to early crossbow around XIV th,on Mac's trail. I love the design and the efficiency of those military crossbow they where light, powerful, rough , but very elegant and made to serve a soldier in harsh condition. Tiller:cherry wood prod:yew,nut and decoration:delrin, metal parts forged (Sure Mac is a lot better for this)
Return to early crossbow around XIV th,on Mac's trail. I love the design and the efficiency of those military crossbow they where light, powerful, rough , but very elegant and made to serve a soldier in harsh condition. Tiller:cherry wood prod:yew,nut and decoration:delrin, metal parts forged (Sure Mac is a lot better for this)
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Jeep, I really like that tiller. I've just started studying making wooden bow staves, I'm interested to see how your prod holds up over time- will it continue to take a set and become a lighter pull, for instance. It looks fairly raw in these images, have you done or will you do anything to seal or protect it from the elements?
As for the Delrin, I'm a big fan of the stuff myself, I just wish it could be easily had in more colors! I prefer black to white, but it would be nice if brown or cream color were available in sheets. So I don't object to the material, just the bright white detracts a bit from an otherwise handsome work.
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As for the Delrin, I'm a big fan of the stuff myself, I just wish it could be easily had in more colors! I prefer black to white, but it would be nice if brown or cream color were available in sheets. So I don't object to the material, just the bright white detracts a bit from an otherwise handsome work.
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You can dirty up delrin to take the edge off the colour. When I split the horn nut on my big bow I switched to delrin. after a month or so of use, it matches the camel bone I used.
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Hi Gnome, I got this prod for quite a long time (4 years for the wood before to shape as bow) I used it for a previous "skane"type crossbow . Time a go I let it stringed to give a light de-flex shape, since I put the string only for shooting. I always been surprised by this prod: efficiency, power lightness.Is so far one of the nicest to shoot of all my crossbow. Yew is very surprising, from the same piece I cut a second prod and with the same measurements and draw length it exploded sending splinters all around the place!
I will send the delrin with light sending paper and then rub with wax to give a very very light brown colour. I am waiting for a nice piece of leather to sew and cover (protect) all the the prod before to adorn. I am thinking adding a bamboo slat on the belly to get some more poundage but I am not sure of the benefit .Is anybody try and find is a good idea? other solution and probably the best would be sticking Tendons on the back of the bow but drying time is so long..The bad side is I will have to cut the nice bridle and everybody know it is a pain on the ass to do a good one . Done redone is the bowyer's destiny !!!
I will send the delrin with light sending paper and then rub with wax to give a very very light brown colour. I am waiting for a nice piece of leather to sew and cover (protect) all the the prod before to adorn. I am thinking adding a bamboo slat on the belly to get some more poundage but I am not sure of the benefit .Is anybody try and find is a good idea? other solution and probably the best would be sticking Tendons on the back of the bow but drying time is so long..The bad side is I will have to cut the nice bridle and everybody know it is a pain on the ass to do a good one . Done redone is the bowyer's destiny !!!
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Here is my cord and pulley spanning system . I am surprised of the efficiency and the very quick reloading time needed.When you are used to it ,you can easily shoot 6 or seven bolt a minute! Enough to kill the legend of a dramatic slow time needed to reload. If you add accuracy and power this was a very deadly weapon.
Now I agree whit Todd,it is bit awkward! On mine the rope have to be shorter because the draw length is 20cm and the system was design for around the usual 14cm for a steel prod. I actually use a military belt because my leather one don't withstand the pressure!!
Now I agree whit Todd,it is bit awkward! On mine the rope have to be shorter because the draw length is 20cm and the system was design for around the usual 14cm for a steel prod. I actually use a military belt because my leather one don't withstand the pressure!!
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I like this way to span, but it is not very convenient when you are moving and you have to stand up ! So I am starting a goat foot lever.
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I like the stack of Chinese bows under the table. Why did you start with round stock, just handy, or another reason? I ask because sometimes it makes sense to start with one shape even if most of your finished work isn't that shape.
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jeep wrote: I am waiting for a nice piece of leather to sew and cover (protect) all the the prod before to adorn. I am thinking adding a bamboo slat on the belly to get some more poundage but I am not sure of the benefit .Is anybody try and find is a good idea?
You mean loose laminate ?
It might cause problems with that leather cover.
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I agree with Nerd. A loose laminate inside a leather cover may not be such a good idea. They are usually tied/lashed to the other laminations. In my avatar pic you'll see black shrink tubing which is doing the same thing. The laminations need to slide against each other a bit.
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The stock is more rounded square then round. I choose this shape referring to the few image or painting I have seen.Beside I found it elegant and the tiller is very light this way.I love narrow oval tiller also but is a later design, mostly used with composite bow.
I've tried leather cover over laminate prod on a previous crossbow I had not any problem with it. But finally I wont put extra slats on this one ,it is strong enough. I find new peace of yew for new prod, but this time I will back it with sinew.Will see the result within six month!!
I've tried leather cover over laminate prod on a previous crossbow I had not any problem with it. But finally I wont put extra slats on this one ,it is strong enough. I find new peace of yew for new prod, but this time I will back it with sinew.Will see the result within six month!!
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Greetings:
I am also a big fan of the slim,longer and lighter military bows. Very nice work, indeed.
What is the width of the tiller at it's widest point. Hard to tell from the pics.
Once again nice job
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I am also a big fan of the slim,longer and lighter military bows. Very nice work, indeed.
What is the width of the tiller at it's widest point. Hard to tell from the pics.
Once again nice job
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Here measurements: