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    Steel bow where do you get them?

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    Steel bow where do you get them?

    Post by Vintageairguns on Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:40 am

    Does anybody know of somebody who makes an authentic replica steel bow for crossbows?
    I am considering making a 15 century German/Swiss style bolt crossbow but I do not know where to get hold of an authentic steel bow from.

    Any idea?
    Any prices?


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    Re: Steel bow where do you get them?

    Post by Ivo on Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:38 am

    Digitarc.com is the only place I know of that deals rolled end prods, some crossbow builders on here have purchased their prods and were happy with the service. Look through Crossbow Components section for more info.

    There is this one other place, a guy from Sweden suggested his service, but the prods come unfinished.




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    Re: Steel bow where do you get them?

    Post by Scott on Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:11 pm

    Hi Peter,
    you could try asking Tod here, he seems very helpful: http://www.todsstuff.co.uk/dd/contact.php


    ps I tried to rejoin the Vintage Airgun Forum, but wasn't able to, could you pm me here? Smile
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    Re: Steel bow where do you get them?

    Post by Zardoz on Fri Dec 31, 2010 7:58 pm

    Scott, stay away from the cheap ($60) prods from here in the USA. You will see what I mean. I have a couple of identical model prods and they do not even resemble each other. There was no tillering done at all. They were just bent extra to compensate for the weaker limb. I can send you a picture in a PM. Bad customer service, EXTREMELY long wait times, poor and inconsistent product. Cut a damn truck leaf spring instead. At least you can control the quality. I'm experimenting with my own composite design.
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    Re: Steel bow where do you get them?

    Post by kiwijim on Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:39 pm

    Hi Zardof,
    I have dealt with that guy who sells the $60 prodds and I agree. Over the years I have dealt with literally hundreds of different companies and he would take the cake as being the worst supplier I have ever dealt with. After paying for my prodd it took me over 1 year of calling him to get it. When it arrived it was the roughest piece of sh#t you could imagine. It is also so whip tillered that I consider it dangerous. I have had no joy getting my $ refunded. Maybe I should post some photos of it here and put his name next to it?

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    Re: Steel bow where do you get them?

    Post by Vintageairguns on Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:26 am

    Vintageairguns wrote:Does anybody know of somebody who makes an authentic replica steel bow for crossbows?
    I am considering making a 15 century German/Swiss style bolt crossbow but I do not know where to get hold of an authentic steel bow from.

    Any idea?
    Any prices?


    Thanks Peter


    Having read the messages I now realise this isn't going to be easy, I should have realised that whatever steel bow I want for a 15 century Crossbow replica, it would have to be a one off, made to measure.
    This instantly puts a huge price tag on something like this!Sad

    I think for the present I will stick to repairing originals which are in need of some TLC.

    Building a replica is going on the back boiler! Sleep
    Or I might have a go at chewing up a truck leaf spring, see what sort of cock up I can make out of one of them! sander

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    Re: Steel bow where do you get them?

    Post by Zardoz on Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:46 pm

    kiwijim, We should compare pics of the terrible prods. I think we can talk in code here. I got my prods from a state that is round at both ends and high in the middle. I assume that you did too. I will try a Digitarc or Jens (Senfelder?) prod next time or just make my own using a simple backyard forge. You get what you pay for and I learned my lesson.
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    Re: Steel bow where do you get them?

    Post by Vidar Halvslak on Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:18 am

    Try Jens.Sensfelder@googlemail.com in Germany.
    He makes historicly correct ones quite cheap. A little finishing left to do, but use no heat-producing machines due to damage to the hardening.
    See http://armborst.forum24.se/armborst-about78.html for pictures.
    Nice guy too !

    NEVER use a spring from an old truck. It´s full of microscopic cracks and might break and swing around and kill you instantly. Maybe a new leafspring that you x-ray.
    And use a safety-chord on the whole back of the steelprod including the nocks. A normal belt 30 mm wide and 3 mm thick will do. We have made several drawtests and it works.

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    Re: Steel bow where do you get them?

    Post by 8fingers on Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:18 pm

    Try a truck (lorry?) " brake and spring shop" The up to date ones can turn out a nice replica, properly tempered, and could probably hot swage a rolled end like period ones. The price probably will be reasonable, and minimal waiting. I have a friend at a spring shop who says he could probably do it, but a local jobber would save you a bundle on freight.

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