Crossbows - Everything about Building, Modding, and Using your Crossbow Gear

Latest topics

» Trouble with my Gafa
by msalazar2310 Yesterday at 9:27 pm

» My latest crossbow
by drawknife Yesterday at 6:13 pm

» Medieval composite bows
by Dark Factor Mon May 21, 2018 3:46 pm

» The Arbalist Guild - Around the World
by stuckinthemud1 Sun May 20, 2018 8:32 am

» Presentation
by juanjo Sun May 20, 2018 5:13 am

» angles and rivets
by Geezer Fri May 18, 2018 4:16 pm

» morticed nut blocks
by Dark Factor Wed May 16, 2018 3:02 pm

» Crossbow triggers
by Croftage Mon May 14, 2018 4:41 pm

» horn inlay and veneer
by OrienM Sat May 12, 2018 11:59 am

» yew and sinew prod help needed
by OrienM Sat May 12, 2018 11:29 am

» Cocking lever
by c sitas Fri May 11, 2018 11:09 am

» Late roman crossbow
by Dark Factor Wed May 09, 2018 1:27 pm

» For Sale: Masai Crossbow
by TonyU Tue May 08, 2018 9:35 am

» Powermaster Madness
by Archer46176 Sun May 06, 2018 11:08 pm

» Fast loading crossbow
by septua Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:22 pm

» lashing a glass prod in raw hide?
by kenh Sun Apr 22, 2018 10:00 am

» Balestra Veloce / Leonardo DaVinci
by msalazar2310 Fri Apr 20, 2018 1:37 pm

» Goats Foot Lever
by Geezer Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:42 pm

» Hickory and Ipe 180lb flatbow
by actionbow Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:56 pm

» goat foot questions.
by Geezer Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:26 pm

» Prod questions....
by Geezer Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:58 am

» convert compound cross bow to ball shooter
by kenh Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:34 am

» Skane Lockbow replica (and making of)
by actionbow Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:10 pm

» String traps bolt to tiller when loosed
by Geezer Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:36 pm

» How close to original would you go
by jamesjohnson Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:36 am


    14th Century pavise

    Share
    avatar
    BrianlaZouche
    Fresh Blood

    Doesn't mean
    I'm new to crossbows


    Fresh Blood Doesn't meanI'm new to crossbows

    Posts : 15
    Join date : 2012-11-15

    14th Century pavise

    Post by BrianlaZouche on Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:30 am

    ok not actually a crossbow, but a very crossbow related item, = a crossbow mans pavise from the 14th century

    having spent week doing web searches untill my brain drips out my eyes, i turn to you guys in the hope you may have information/ images you can share,

    i'm hoping to construct a crossbow mans pavise suitable for mid 14th cent, all the web searches bring up 15th century ones, i know some will say whats the differance, but the very few early ones i have come across show them to me a lot more plainly deccorated than the 15thc examples,. but more importantly they do not seem to have the centeral ' gully' ie; they appear simple flat or slightly curved,

    i do not follow the line of thinking that just becasue it was used in 1480 it would have been the same 140 years earlier

    so i'd like to find as much information as i can before even attempting to make a copy of one

    any help/ info/ ideas/ thoughts would be very welcome

    but please NO 15th cent ones, as there are loads of those on the net
    avatar
    Zardoz
    Tinkerer

    If there is a will, there is a way.


    TinkererIf there is a will, there  is a way.

    Posts : 88
    Join date : 2010-12-31
    Age : 53
    Location : New York

    Re: 14th Century pavise

    Post by Zardoz on Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:47 am

    The first post on the link below shows one from 1400 and talks about earlier ones. I hope this helps.
    http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=2711
    avatar
    BrianlaZouche
    Fresh Blood

    Doesn't mean
    I'm new to crossbows


    Fresh Blood Doesn't meanI'm new to crossbows

    Posts : 15
    Join date : 2012-11-15

    Re: 14th Century pavise

    Post by BrianlaZouche on Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:56 am

    cheers tyvm happy xmas Smile



    ah thats one of the many many site i have already gone through, closet is the 1st one listed as 1400, i'd still like provenace on something a little earlier tho but all ideas welcomed with thanks
    avatar
    ferdinand
    Crossbow Junkie

    I live here!


    Crossbow JunkieI live here!

    Posts : 301
    Join date : 2012-04-24

    Re: 14th Century pavise

    Post by ferdinand on Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:13 pm

    i have pictures of one in the royal dutch army museum with a picture of saint george and the dragon. But it does have the 'gully' u wanted to avoid so probably u dont want it?
    avatar
    mac
    Master Weaponsmith
    Master Weaponsmith

    Posts : 560
    Join date : 2010-12-23
    Location : Near Philly USA

    Re: 14th Century pavise

    Post by mac on Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:46 pm

    Brian,

    Is is that you are looking for an extant example from the 14th C? Do you have any examples from 14thC art? I am having trouble bringing any to mind.

    Mac
    avatar
    BrianlaZouche
    Fresh Blood

    Doesn't mean
    I'm new to crossbows


    Fresh Blood Doesn't meanI'm new to crossbows

    Posts : 15
    Join date : 2012-11-15

    Re: 14th Century pavise

    Post by BrianlaZouche on Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:10 am

    yes an extant one would be ideal. such as the Erfut ones,

    i do have only 2 illustrations from that period showing what seems to be pavises but as you can imagine not an awfull lot of detail shown on them, ( will post them/ links here when i find my files )

    Ferdinand,.... it may seem i want one without a gully, but thats not the case, what i really want to find out is what they actually looked like, if evidance of a mid 14th cent has gullys then thats great, ...what i dont want to simply ASSUME is that just because something looked like it did mid/late 15thc that they would have been the same 100- 150 years earlier
    avatar
    ferdinand
    Crossbow Junkie

    I live here!


    Crossbow JunkieI live here!

    Posts : 301
    Join date : 2012-04-24

    Re: 14th Century pavise

    Post by ferdinand on Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:14 am

    This is the one from the royal dutch army museum.
    Dated 1450 to 1500.
    On it is st George, patron saint if knights, symbol of christisnity, battle, nationalism.
    And he is slaying the dragon.
    It is Bohemian in origin and in his chest is the crest of the bohemian city of Zwickau.


    Last edited by ferdinand on Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:24 am; edited 1 time in total
    avatar
    ferdinand
    Crossbow Junkie

    I live here!


    Crossbow JunkieI live here!

    Posts : 301
    Join date : 2012-04-24

    Re: 14th Century pavise

    Post by ferdinand on Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:20 am

    O damn, i just realise that 1450 is mid 15th century and not 14th. Sorry....
    avatar
    mac
    Master Weaponsmith
    Master Weaponsmith

    Posts : 560
    Join date : 2010-12-23
    Location : Near Philly USA

    Re: 14th Century pavise

    Post by mac on Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:26 am

    BrianlaZouche wrote:
    i do have only 2 illustrations from that period showing what seems to be pavises but as you can imagine not an awfull lot of detail shown on them, ( will post them/ links here when i find my files )

    I look forward to seeing them.

    Mac

    Sponsored content

    Re: 14th Century pavise

    Post by Sponsored content


      Current date/time is Wed May 23, 2018 8:09 am