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    Anglo/Norman 12th C type weapon with yew prod

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    Post by yeomanbowman Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:58 am

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    Thought I’d post this crossbow I made. The idea was for an Anglo/Norman 12th C type weapon based on various collected data rather than a single drawing. Perhaps the type Gerald of Wales mentions.

    The prod is made from Welsh yew (really excellent stuff if chosen carefully) and draws 100lbs at 12”. It had too much natural reflex so I steamed it out to straight and that's where it has stayed with no string follow. The tiller is of ash and is in two parts and split-dowel and wedged together. This houses the mechanism which, as you can see is a simple a rising pin of horn and steel tickler.

    I was pleasantly surprised by the smooth and clean loose. The tickler was modified from a hanging basket bracket, of all things, bought at a garden centre! I had the stirrup made for me by a blacksmith friend. The bow’s string is made from linen treated with bees wax and in an endless style.
    The Prod is held on jute bindings, not really period but looks the part. The bolt clip is of horn that was heated and pressed into a form.



    The performance seems reasonable and shoots a bolt at a high of 156FPS down to 128FPS after a number of shots. The ½” bolt works as well as the 3/8” one. These are both of birch and fletched with swan and bound on with silk and a tree resin varnish.

    The whole bow is proofed with a beeswax/animal /tree resin.

    Cheers,
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    Post by kenh Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:13 pm

    Verrry nice. The Ash of the tiller is really pretty. I hadn't thought of 'unrolled' horn for the bolt clip - great idea. I'm becoming a big fan of the 'pin lock' action. The pistolbow in my avatar is made that way.
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    Post by shiloh Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:41 am

    Hi, love this weapon, and especially the yew prod. I have a pin lock with a red oak prod bound in with jute and hemp, does the trick and looks the part. I was surprised with this prod, not as good as yew, but produces @80lbs, great target bow and lots of fun to shoot.

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    Post by jds6 Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:01 am

    Really like the bolt clip! What was your method of heating and forming it? Really nice build!

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    Post by Geezer Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:27 am

    "The Prod is held on jute bindings, not really period but looks the part." Jeremy: don't apologize for using 'non-period' Jute for the prod-bridle. It's pretty clear to me that the old timers used whatever materials were available in their neighborhood. If you can get jute, but not hemp or linen, you're keeping the traditions better than most. It's a nice-looking bow. Enjoy! Geezer

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    Post by yeomanbowman Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:31 am

    Thanks for the comments, Gents.


    The horn was heated with a heat gun and then pressed between a softwood male/female former in vice.

    Cheers,

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    Post by yeomanbowman Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:06 am

    I made the crossbow to do some comparative testing with an elm warbow. Gerald of Wales, when recanting the power of the Welsh bow, finishes with something like "It is difficult to see what more you could do, even if you had a crossbow". The inference obviously being that crossbows were generally regarded as more powerful and effective at the time.

    I'd be interested in your thoughts as to the weight of the prod at the time of his tour through Wales in 1188. I'd also be interested in the relative performance in FPS or flight distance of crossbows of this type you have made, please.

    Have you tested yours Shiloh?

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    Post by shiloh Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:49 pm

    Hi, I`ve done no flight shooting as of yet, the snow`s up to my arm pits around here, my farmer neighbor has a nice 1.5km long strip of land I plan to do some long shots this spring with my pin lock and nut lock(@200lb) The pin lock has a longer power stroke, lighter bolts, it`ll be interesting to see the results.

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    Post by Geezer Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:48 pm

    Some years ago, I built a fairly primitive crossbow (bone roller-lock) with a yew prod... I got an experienced bowyer friend to make the prod. It was one of the sweetest shooting crossbows I've ever handled. The prod itself was fairly long, but very light weight. It was quiet, efficient and altogether pleasant to play with. There's a reason yew has been such a popular bow-wood over the years. Geezer
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    Post by Norwegianwarbows Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:44 am

    Hei guys! Im new to the forum and this is the first crossbow ive seen on the forum and it is beautiful! I am making a crossbow similer to this one but my stokk is made of beech and bow from norwegian yew.. The bow is 205 pounds at 9 ".
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    Post by yeomanbowman Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:35 am

    I'm guessing you must be Daniel?
    If you don't know him then you are in for a treat as he is a very talented bowyer who makes wonderful self warbows. In particular, monster elm bows that draw to any weight anyone could possibly want (and more).
    I'm looking forward to seeing the images of this one!
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