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    Post by backgardenbowyer on Mon May 13, 2013 4:12 pm

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    Does anyone know anything about this unusual stirrup and prod arrangement? The bow appears in Strickland and Hardy's The Great Warbow and I found this picture from the museum in Glasgow. It doesn't look quite right to me - yew is very soft and would bruise if placed under pressure directly by this fitting. Anyone know any more,or tried to build something similar?

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    Post by Geezer on Mon May 13, 2013 4:50 pm

    I would say there's stuff missing here. Wooden bows of this sort would have the prod bound in with hemp cord. The stirrup usually has a broad base, because it's tied down onto the prod... usually with a separate piece of leather or rawhide, wrapped over the prod in a figure-eight thru the stirrup, then wrapped round in one of those woven hat-arrangements. It's likely there would be a bit of leather inserted between the stirrup and the 'back' of the bow. Have you other pics of this stock that would show the hole for the 'bridle' binding? Geezer.
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    Post by backgardenbowyer on Mon May 13, 2013 4:58 pm

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    Geezer - there really doesn't appear to be a binding hole. There is discolouration on the prod around the stirrup suggesting to me that maybe a leather washer of some sort has been present. I agree this doesn't look right but there is no evidence of the usual bridle/binding.
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    Post by mac on Mon May 13, 2013 6:29 pm

    BG Bower,

    I examined that crossbow briefly about 5(?) years ago. I am not sure what to make of it, but I do not think it is beyond reproach.

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    Post by robert.collard.5 on Mon May 13, 2013 7:06 pm

    Does the iron completely surround the prod? There must be something there to pin the hinge also the pin and wedge arrangement on the bottom. A picture worthy of one thousand words
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    Post by Geezer on Mon May 13, 2013 9:49 pm

    Huh, no bridle-hole. Okay, there's a somewhat obscure Italian mounting system, not unlike bow-irons in concept that uses a metal link, rather like a hasp for a padlock, that hinges over the prod from the top and locks with a wedge at the bottom... could be something like that. Otherwise, it certainly does look like a north-european bow... I'd say scandinavian or N. German. Hmmmm.
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    Post by shiloh on Wed May 15, 2013 3:56 am

    That bow is pretty cool, hinged stirrup to hold the limb in place, easy take down for transport, very innovative, our ancestors where.
    And just because it`s away from the norm we`ve all accepted, doesn`t mean it aint so. I doubt we`ll ever know all the cool ancient innovations that have surrounded the cross bow builder.
    Who knows what the Cooper, or Smithy down the lane came up with to bring meat home to his family.

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    Post by ferdinand on Wed May 15, 2013 8:56 am

    What time do they place this bow in?
    It looks to be mediteranian. Or asian?
    Its doesnt look that old, not that i am any expert.
    I like the mounting but any average smith could make it, its no pro job.
    Funny bow, it looks like one i made from a christmas tree.
    Hmmm, interesting one indeed!
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    Post by backgardenbowyer on Wed May 15, 2013 12:32 pm

    The museum's description is here:http://collections.glasgowmuseums.com/starobject.html?oid=242808 They are a bit vague about about the date but suggest it is pre 1400 and a genuine example of an early medieval bow with a wooden prod.

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