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    Post by tghsmith Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:30 am

    I joined over 10 years back, showing a few photos of a bow I made using an alchem steel prod,, I trolled around over the years and recently have started thinking about a building a full on reproduction of a medevial composite crossbow,, surfing about I was happy to a US supplier of sturgeon air bladders. looking for a good horn source along the tendons.. my tools have impoved with the gain of a bench top metal lathe and milling machine.. I do have most of the books available (wish my german was better.. still have some good antler nut blanks in a box, haven't decided on the woods that will be involved,, I have several large holly and dogwood logs that have been drying for the last 6years..  any and all advise, recomdations and resources is greatly welcomed..
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    Post by stuckinthemud1 Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:51 am

    Welcome back! By composite do you mean horn and sinew, maybe with a wood core?  If you do, that's fantastic, there's at least 2 of us giving that a go.
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    Post by tghsmith Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:04 am

    yes we're talking grooved horn, wood core and sinew.. trying to stay true to methods down to fish and hide glues.. still in the drawing/design phase.. looking at the more advanced tickler mech..
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    Post by stuckinthemud1 Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:05 pm

    My favourite subject! I'm in the middle of a long build, grooving horn and trying to get it to stick together, been corresponding with Andreas  Bichler (top guy) don't use a wood core, horn bows operate way beyond the bending tolerance of timber,  medieval guild members were reprimanded for using it to pass-off weak bows as super strong by padding them out with a timber lath. Possibly very early bows used yew but it very quickly became obsolete
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    Post by tghsmith Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:48 pm

    looking at most of the info available most likely the wood core will be minimal layer at best.. hoping to get some nice holly blanks for the stock,, will start a build thread when this gets a little further on paper and materials start collecting..  you would think with all the new tech that a few MRI's of surviving prods would be around,,
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    Post by stuckinthemud1 Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:06 pm

    You would,  wouldn't you!  The most important weapon in the medieval world, in use for at least half a milenia and almost entirely un-researched, please don't get me started  What typed  of horn you going for? I plumped for water buffalo. Wish I hadn't, next time I'm going with big horn sheep or goat.  Ibex is most authentic but CITES protected
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    Post by tghsmith Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:35 pm

    that's my bigger research at this time, started looking towards long horn steer for cost reasons, goat and sheep are some options,, will have to see what can be obtained..
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    Post by stuckinthemud1 Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:42 pm

    Long horn steer. Is that long horn cattle?  Can't go there if that is what you mean, totally unsuitable.  There are many good reasons everyone in the archery world uses water buffalo or sheep/goat
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    Post by tghsmith Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:15 pm

    that's the kind of info I'm looking for!  this "store" looks to have some possibles
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