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    The label amused me, a long bow of 89cm length!!   Clearly a not very long bow, but absolutely bang on for an early wooden crossbow lath.  Don't think it was sinewed, could realistically be of any date after 900AD but is listed as medieval. Myself I would guess early 14th century just going by the overall length but I'd be very happy to be corrected.
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    Post by OrienM Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:16 am

    Longbow, lol.  Razz

    Definitely a crossbow prod, and I agree with your assessment that it's probably a "selfbow" version, non-sinew-backed. Pretty nice state of preservation, too; I'd love to see a few color pics of it.
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    Post by c sitas Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:21 pm

    Guys, just imagine the arms on the man that strung that "long bow".
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    Post by stuckinthemud1 Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:25 am

    I love the European museums services, the crossbow lath is still in the Bergen University Museum catalogue and they very kindly sent me an up to date image. Any speculations on wood type?

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    Post by kenh Wed Oct 30, 2019 5:53 am

    There is no way to get any meaningful answer to "kind of wood?" from that picture.  

    Being from Norway, presumably, your good wood choices for bow-making are more limited: Birch, Beech, Alder, Norway Maple, Norway Spruce, and Oak.
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    Post by stuckinthemud1 Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:54 am

    There is a dark line running through a good length of the bow, probably a line caused by mold or rot rather than a glue line but it would be pretty cool if it were a compression pine and birch laminate, like the finno-ugric bows that were so common through northern Scandinavia. The museum would probably have picked up on that though.
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    Post by kenh Wed Oct 30, 2019 8:51 am

    I was wondering if it were a finno-ugric two-wood prod myself.  No reason you couldn't make a compression pine/birch replica!    provided, of course, you can find a suitable piece of compression pine.  

    If you could get your hands on an OLD piece of Old growth Southern Yellow Pine from a barn timber, that high-ring-count wood could certainly work for "compression pine". 

     I had a length that was harvested over 50 years ago and had grown for 211 (I counted) years with an average of 30 years per inch!!  The stuff was rock hard!  I used it to make a couple fabulous musical instruments rather than bows or prods though...
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    Well, I have some compression yew heartwood I could back with hazel.  ..
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    Post by stuckinthemud1 Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:29 am

    Sort of looks like it is sinewed too, despite my first thought being the opposite of that
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    Post by kenh Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:24 am

    I suspect it is not sinewed.  Virtually every sinewed bow/prod I've seen is almost immediately (after curing) covered with waterproofing -- birch or cherry bark, thick lacquer layers, thin leather.  No evidence of that, that I can see here
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    Post by stuckinthemud1 Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:16 am

    Agreed, hide or fish glue is highly susceptible to water damage and is always covered and there clearly is no covering, bark or leather, but it still the surface has a strange appearance don't you think?
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