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    String jig, was String and brace, again

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    Post by Frode Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:53 pm

    First topic message reminder :

    Well, here we go again. After the string break I decided to try making a string jig and string. I want this thing on its feet and shooting, and even my best string source is a week out. Besides, it's one more thing I'll have to do anyway, so why not now. The string is 40 strands of B50 served with twisted nylon serving thread.

    This Alchem bow is supposed to be braced at 3 1/2", and after all is said and done, my second string has it braced at 4" plus a skosh. I'm letting it sit overnight to see if it relaxes any, but is this too much brace for this prod? (String number one was loose in spots and, somehow, ended up being 2" too long.)

    A few pics follow, of my minimalist string jig, the bow strung, and some leather pads to protect the loops.

    As always, any feed back is appreciated!
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    Post by Basilisk120 Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:35 pm

    Ahh that looks familiar, I have seen this problem before. I put a little knot/twist in the servings as I was serving the string and that seemed to help. I did that on all the serving around the nocks and about an inch on each end of the serving on the bow string. Its kind of like the knots on the sinew you used to tighten the cords hold the prod on.

    Sorry I don't have pictures, cameras not working. Mad That would make this so much easier to describe. I'll see if I can find another camera and get some pictures.
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    Post by Ivo Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:44 pm

    Serving is a very interesting topic in my opinion. It's not just to protect the string, there are a couple more interesting uses for it here and there. Reason why it comes in so many different diameters for the same material, but more about that later.

    I never really thought about it until now that it's right in my face. My guess is, to avoid such drastic separations in the loop, a thinner serving should be used to get a tighter wrap pattern. This will give less separation in tighter bends that the string is dealing with when thrown over the prod tip. Not sure how you serve the loops closed, but think it's worth mentioning that serving *towards* the loop will help put pressure on the ends of the loop's serving too.

    As for the center serving, like in the videos - serving over a stretcher is the cure. I also battled these separations at one time and it's all good now. Smile



    Now about the variety of uses. It mainly applies to fine-tuning the center serving and it's relation to the nock of the bolt.
    Since we are dealing with different diameter bolts, different bolt groove dimensions, and different overall string dieters due to different strength prods and string materials - all of this has to be calculated to work properly - so the string contact the bolt dead center (theoretically correct approach, but I've also heard it should be just a tiniest fraction above center, but again - *heard* String jig, was String and brace, again - Page 2 2860157027 String jig, was String and brace, again - Page 2 874442478 ) Now to fine tune this contact point is where different serving diameters come into play. A thicker serving would give one a string with that sits higher on the track and is used to adjust the string center to bolt nock center contact if the string contacts it too low. Same for the smaller diameter serving - which brings the string lower as opposed to the thicker one.

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    ...kinda like that, but that's match grade stuff. Still, it's something to throw something on the forum...if it comes in handy in the process, all the better. Wink

    Good Luck. Smile

    PS: Basilisk's stuff sounds very interesting. Now you did it man, now you *have* to find a way to show us. Laughing
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    Post by Frode Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:23 pm

    Well, after seeing all the fine examples of string jigs here, I figured I'd better just go ahead and bite the bullet. Here's my interpretation, in wood. I have to say, it puts some scary tension on the string, with no complaints! Tomorrow we'll see how the first string off of it works.
    Frode

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