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Wood prods, general question

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Wood prods, general question

by jake-owa Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:58 pm

First topic message reminder :

Do people just not mess with them? It seems like most are metal or fiberglass. I have been playing with treating and tying bamboo for fun but it seems like there could be some potential there. Also, fiberglass backed hardwoods seem light and efficient but I don't know the what the upper limits are on poundage. I imagine that it takes a much longer wood prod to match the draw weights of the short metal ones.

I suppose it's all down to what type of bow you are after but I would be interested to hear thoughts about this from people who have thought a lot more about it than I have. scratch

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Wooden Prods

by Clinker Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:02 pm

Here is an interesting article for wooden prod crossbows of 126# across a 14" draw : http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/topic/15054/t/A-Simple-Crossbow.html?page=1
Having made a crossbow to this pattern, I can say red oak is probably not the ideal wood. It is stressed right up to the max at 39"ntn. The Skane crossbow this is based on used Yew. It is also better to go to a somewhat longer prod for the sake of longevity. Maple breaks more explosively than Red Oak in the short length. 48" is a better length. The Notch lock trigger is rather stiff at higher poundages, I can see why the Roller Lock became popular. Still, an all-wood crossbow is fun and rather easy to build, and reasonably powerful.

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Re: Wood prods, general question

by mac Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:08 pm

I had not read this thread until Clinker brought it back up. Here is a crossbow I made years ago with a hickory bow/lathe/prod. It draws about 150lb. (68kg.).

Mac

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Re: Wood prods, general question

by Basilisk120 Fri Mar 04, 2011 1:53 pm

That is a nice looking bow Mac. I really like the thin lines of this bow.

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Re: Wood prods, general question

by mac Fri Mar 04, 2011 2:00 pm

Basilisk120 wrote:That is a nice looking bow Mac. I really like the thin lines of this bow.

Thank you! It's easy to "overbuild" these things. I work hard to try to capture the slimness of the real ones.

Mac

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by Todd the archer Fri Mar 04, 2011 3:32 pm

Nice bow Mac, question, How long is the bow and what is the draw length?

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Re: Wood prods, general question

by mac Fri Mar 04, 2011 5:41 pm

Todd,

Here are some measurements of the bow..

--total length (unstrung) 35 1/2" (900mm)
--distance between nocks on back of bow (unstrung) 33 1/2" (851mm)
-- " " (strung) 33" (838mm)
--total brace height 4 1/2" (114mm)
--stroke 8 1/4" (209mm)
--height of bow near center 1 5/8" (41mm)
--thickness of bow near center 11/16" (18mm)

Note, that the bow is deflexed, and stringing only pulls tips of the limbs back about 1" (25mm)

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Re: Wood prods, general question

by Todd the archer Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:59 pm

Thanks Mac, that is very interesting.
Any idea on it's performance?
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Re: Wood prods, general question

by JMC Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:55 am

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my crossbows with wooden bows

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Re: Wood prods, general question

by mac Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:33 am

Todd the archer wrote:Thanks Mac, that is very interesting.
Any idea on it's performance?
Todd

It's been years since I shot it through a chronograph, but I think it was in the neighborhood of 150fps. The bolts were relatively light: 5/16 shafts with (70gr?) target points.

I used it as a target bow. I,m sure it is heavy enough for small game, but probably not large.

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Re: Wood prods, general question

by Orcbow Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:57 pm

Here's a wooden prod crossbow I made. It has undergone a slight transition since the video, mostly cosmetic, but there is yet another short lamination added on the back of the bow. The prod measures at the longest point 37" long (93 cm) and draws about 100 #

And this is it's current look:

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The shortest layer of wood is honey locust. The middle layer is sassafrass, and the outermost layer is hickory.

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Re: Wood prods, general question

by Ivo Mon Mar 14, 2011 9:49 pm

Good to see you back Orcbow! Smile

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My younger brother was playing this game yesterday and it reminded me of your bow...all I had to did was think and there you are. That's some mystical coincidence. Laughing

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Mac, JMC, nice bows guys!

Mac is that the one with the brazed trigger?

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Re: Wood prods, general question

by Orcbow Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:06 pm

Ivo: that's no surprise to me...lol

Thanks for the positive thoughts!

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Re: Wood prods, general question

by mac Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:39 pm

Ivo wrote:
Mac is that the one with the brazed trigger?

No, that one has a forged trigger. If you would like, I will get a pic of the brazed one, and try to post it.

Mac

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Re: Wood prods, general question

by mac Wed Mar 30, 2011 4:49 pm

Ivo,

Here is an overall view of the bow with the brazed trigger.

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Wood prods, general question - Page 2 Mhhbow11

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Here is a detail of the brazed joint.

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Wood prods, general question - Page 2 Brazed11

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Re: Wood prods, general question

by Ivo Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:16 pm

Thank you mac, very neat braze!!! and overall a really nice looking bow. cyclops

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The reason I asked about brazing is because I've been trying to braze together parts of my trigger and that little sheet metal brake I was talking about in the Metalworking section and it has been a pain...I'll try to free up some time this week to post a few updates on my projects and perhaps you guys can give me a few pointers on what I'm doing wrong. Wood prods, general question - Page 2 499925

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Re: Wood prods, general question

by Basilisk120 Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:55 pm

Orcbow, That is one sweet looking crossbow. I like the spanning mechanism. very clever

Mac, That is one clean looking braze. that really gives the trigger a nice look

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Re: Wood prods, general question

by testhero Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:44 pm

I love that spanning box Orcbow ! Can you also use it to Put the string on the bow ?
Very different look to your bow not my preference but very striking in the second darker colour.

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Re: Wood prods, general question

by mac Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:53 pm

Basilisk120 wrote:
Mac, That is one clean looking braze. that really gives the trigger a nice look

Thanks! It might, now that I think about it, be a silver solder, rather than a brass braze. (It's been many years) It's all the same thing really, but the silver solder flows better and is a better color match for the steel.

Mac

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