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    Post by tghsmith Wed Mar 17, 2021 6:02 am

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    after lots of evenings of reading have decide that the "crossbow of Matthias Corvinus 1489" will be the design that I will be using as a model. 30" tiller, 24-26" bow, 2 axis lock,, well documented and even an X-ray of the lock.. drawing up plans and gather materials.. calculated the nut size and enlarged the x-ray photo to match, gives me a good pattern of the lock.. wanting to test my new tools with antler, made an arbor and turned a nut blank on the lathe,, set up the boring head in the bench mill and milled a section for the forward nut bearing.. new tools are great!! my holly logs that have been dry for 5 years are spalted and worthless for crossbow needs (they were cut at the worst time) looking at locating a hornbeam billet.. starting a 1400's replica - Page 3 8iuEgGstarting a 1400's replica - Page 3 IhngKr

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    Post by tghsmith Sat May 08, 2021 8:04 am

    transferred the plan lines to the billet. it will be nice to get some of the weight removed. leaving the region around the nut so it will vise up while clearing the voids.. time to get all the chisels, shaves and planes ready for the hornbeam..starting a 1400's replica - Page 3 ZFrQ5q
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    Post by stuckinthemud1 Sun May 09, 2021 3:31 pm

    The most effective tool I have found for hogging off waste on convex curves is a Shinto rasp.  Saw out your profiles then hit it hard with a shinto, or failing that, a big farrier's rasp.  Knocking the curves in with a 1inch no 3 carving gouge can help but clamping the stock down gets really difficult really quickly
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    Post by tghsmith Sun May 09, 2021 5:00 pm

    have them all.. plus a few surforms, have a large farriers rasp that you dont want to grab without gloves on, it has held this sharpness for years,,
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    Post by Geezer Mon May 10, 2021 6:46 pm

    The traditional tool for such stock removal is a spokeshave, either convex or flat. A nice sharp spokeshave is a thing of wonder.  You'll never go back to your shurforms or wood rasps.  Geezer.
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    Post by tghsmith Tue May 11, 2021 6:00 am

    I have several drawknifes and spokeshaves.. some antique, some vintage, some blacksmith made new. always the tools of choice.. using them followed by a scraper steel will give the best surface.. my "extra" hornbeam my be used to make some replacement handles for a few antique wooden shaves I bought cheap because the handles were cracked.. still debating (have been for years) about building a shaving horse.. but it would have to be a knock-down type for storage when not in use..
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    Post by stuckinthemud1 Tue May 11, 2021 12:07 pm

    My antique boxwood spokeshave was a lovely tool to look at and use, my metal spokeshave has never been half so good, no matter how much I tune it.  I have two drawknives two very different tools both a pleasure to use, my problem is rhe constant clamping/unclamping/reclamping.  My personal work style means I find upending the stock on a wood block against a stop and rasping one handed while manipulating the stock with the other is the most efficient way forward for me.
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    Post by tghsmith Tue May 11, 2021 12:58 pm

    I bought a set of plans for the origami folding shaving horse, have most of the materials on hand. also thinking that I have some very nice dogwood that is good and dry and wood make some great handles,, the color doesn't show that well in the photos,starting a 1400's replica - Page 3 CrpOaE
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    Post by tghsmith Wed Aug 11, 2021 10:25 am

    I kind slowed down a bit due to work and home things, and the lack of a 3/8"ths swan neck chisel to clear out the tickler slot in the stock. I know I could have dug it out with other tools but I always wanted the chisel in my tool box.. after two backorder delays one is on its way..
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    Post by tghsmith Fri Dec 24, 2021 7:48 am

    still swamped with work and other projects, but my backordered swan-neck chisel did arrive so some more of the basic work might get done..starting a 1400's replica - Page 3 L0Fh9p
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    Post by tghsmith Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:57 am

    spent some time translating from german to english,, have reworked the prod sizing, the material ordering will start this week,, did order up another steel bow as I did end up with 2 tiller stock billets.. still thinking about methods of making a "false" composite prod if the work fails..
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    Post by tghsmith Wed Jan 12, 2022 10:56 am

    the new swan-neck chisel was the prefect tool for the job,, the hornbeam is quite an interesting wood to work with.. yes it's very hard and yes your tools need to very sharp.. tickler/release and nut recesses chisels into tiller,, resest mech holes drilled and temp wire put in place, action seems to be working well,, nut marked for cut aways,, still have to mount front and rear antler nut bearing blocks.. should be cutting the tiller sides away on the band saw this weekend.. brass bolts as testing axels,,,
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    Post by stuckinthemud1 Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:08 pm

    Looking really good, the mechanism is looking especially nice
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    Post by tghsmith Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:34 am

    thanks,, mounting the nut bearings, had to get a little creative with the clamping..
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    Post by stuckinthemud1 Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:23 am

    I think that's one of the reasons for lashing the nut in with a few loops of thread - I used linen thread for my nusfaden - but mine was a simple nut and tickler (single axle)
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    Post by tghsmith Thu Jan 13, 2022 11:23 am

    mounting the rear bearing, once again a creative clamping method, I suppose back in the day they just had an apprentice hold things in place until the glue set
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    Post by tghsmith Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:18 pm

    lopped off the large sections with the bandsaw, touched up some blades with the diamond hones and started to make lots of shavings.. fairly close to a roughed in state so antler and bone panels can start getting planned out.. (it's a whole lot lighter now!!!)
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    Post by stuckinthemud1 Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:21 pm

    Looking good
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    Post by tghsmith Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:58 am

    hed some roughness in the bottom of the nut box, Filled with some JB weld (filled epoxy) made some sanding tools to get all nice and smooth, nut is rotate nicely...
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    Post by tghsmith Wed Jan 19, 2022 10:41 am

    more shaping and sanding.. talked to the alternative ivory folks, the thinner sheet stock can be formed with gently heat.. so I ordered some up to give it a try, I have done some turnings with it in the past and was happy with those.. ordered up some horn and bone so my hobby budget is blown for the month..started laying out the panels,, I'll transfer them to paper and run off a few copies so I can doodle away when we get the next batch of snow and ice in a couple of days..
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    Post by stuckinthemud1 Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:28 pm

    I'll be really interested in how you get on with the alternative ivory
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    Post by tghsmith Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:41 am

    my box of horns and bones is at work, the allternative ivory was scheduled for delivery today, but the 4" inches of southern snow we got last night might delay things a bit,, french toast soaking, doodle sheets at the ready.. good day to put the feet up and enjoy..
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    Post by stuckinthemud1 Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:35 am

    Love a snow day!
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    Post by tghsmith Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:18 am

    box of stuff starting a 1400's replica - Page 3 1f600  camel bones and kudo horns, I saw some post and vids were standard type  bows were made using kudo horns so hoping the properties will work for this.. should be able to get some nice flats from the camel bones..
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    Post by tghsmith Wed Jan 26, 2022 9:45 am

    I shaped and flatted the best side of the bones and will see if my bandsaw and the resaw fence will work to make some thin flat sections. the "ivory" order is still on its way thanks to the weather and postal service.. in surfing around I did find this that seems to a good read...
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    Post by stuckinthemud1 Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:59 pm

    I flatted bone sections with a power file, hand files work well too, in fact bone is surprisingly easy to work with, especially with files, abrasives and scrapers

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