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Peg and Slot trigger pictures
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Peg and Slot trigger pictures
Hi, does anyone know where I can get pictures of primitive crossbows that use the peg and hole or peg and slot type trigger please. Not modern made ones but pictures of "actual" ones such as archealogical finds or museum pieces. I want to make one that is as near to original as possible for experimental use.
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Re: Peg and Slot trigger pictures
Look up the 'Skane bow'; it seems to be one of the most commonly made bows with that kind of trigger, and (I believe) is based off of archaeological evidence.
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Re: Peg and Slot trigger pictures
Thanks for that, I will look it up.
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Re: Peg and Slot trigger pictures
The search term 'Skane lockbow' seem to come up with better results than 'Skane bow', it seems.
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Re: Peg and Slot trigger pictures
I found drawings for the Skane lockbow in Josef Alm's "Survey of European Crossbows." Published in Swedish @ 1947, but there's a Royal Armories (British) English translation dated @ 1991... or thereabouts. Alm has archaeologist's sketches of a crossbow recovered from the moat of Skane castle, which was destroyed @ 1520, with the walls pushed into the moat. Since the crossbows were underneath bits of wall, it seems reasonable to assume they're no newer than 1520. These bows work reasonably well at limited power... say 150 lb. or so, though they tend to wear strings-serving fairly quickly. There are some extant medieval bows of similar design that would be much stronger... I recommend putting a bit of horn or bone at the front of the notch if you want a strong notch-lock
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Re: Peg and Slot trigger pictures
"Lillöhusborstet" is the search word
Swedish crossbow forum discusses about it :
http://armborst.forum24.se/armborst-about42.html
Alms illustration:
http://s3.postimage.org/kz7iu5tj7/Ur_Josef_Alms_skrift_1.jpg
Swedish crossbow forum discusses about it :
http://armborst.forum24.se/armborst-about42.html
Alms illustration:
http://s3.postimage.org/kz7iu5tj7/Ur_Josef_Alms_skrift_1.jpg
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Re: Peg and Slot trigger pictures
Thanks folks, I can see what I have to do now. Great
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Re: Peg and Slot trigger pictures
Great links, Nerd. Thanx a bunch.
What I still haven't figured out is where the term 'lockbow' comes from. All crossbows have some sort of 'lock' or trigger mechanism, even those made be the Southeast Asian hill tribe folks. What makes the Skane mechanism a 'lockbow' instead of say a 'pinlock' or anything else?
What I still haven't figured out is where the term 'lockbow' comes from. All crossbows have some sort of 'lock' or trigger mechanism, even those made be the Southeast Asian hill tribe folks. What makes the Skane mechanism a 'lockbow' instead of say a 'pinlock' or anything else?
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Re: Peg and Slot trigger pictures
In medieval times, a 'lock' was any sort of complex mechanical device. So crossbows have locks, doors have locks, pay-chests have locks, chastity-belts have locks (too bad that) and later, guns have locks. So a 'lockbow' was differentiated from the ordinary kind of bow you held in your hands. Presumably a roller-lock bow would still be a 'lockbow', and not just the peg and notch kind. Geezer.
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Re: Peg and Slot trigger pictures
As a post script to the above concerning 'lockbows' note the small crossbow used in the Anglo-Scottish borderlands is called a 'latch', which is essentially the same thing-a lock. As far as I can tell, latches are mostly roller-locks, some of which have a built-in cocking lever. But I'll bet if you got in your time-machine and did a survey, you'd find the term went back to the norse in Scotland, when in all probability, most of the bows were notch and peg. So the kind of lock doesn't really matter... it's still a lock-bow. Geezer
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Re: Peg and Slot trigger pictures
Thanx Geezer (we're almost the same age, so I'm a geezer too!). I had that thought about Scottish Latch(et) crossbows but didn't realize the connotations of "lock".